The short answer
Replica Audemars Piquet vintage watches, meaning copies of pre-1990s AP models, exist, but they live in a small corner of the China replica market. Demand is dwarfed by Rolex, so fewer workshops bother making them. What you actually get is a 39mm Royal Oak 5402 Jumbo or a 36mm 14790 that reads correctly at arm's length, runs a decorated Japanese or Chinese automatic, and costs somewhere between $250 and $900. None of them are thin enough. Treat one as a $500 novelty, not a stand-in for a $60,000 watch.
What counts as vintage AP
The line usually starts with the Royal Oak 5402ST from 1972, designed by Gerald Genta, 39mm across, and only about 7.2mm thick thanks to the ultra-thin calibre 2121. Early A-series and B-series examples are what people picture when they say vintage Royal Oak. Move into the 1990s and you hit the 14790, a 36mm midsize Royal Oak that wore smaller and sold in larger numbers. The 1993 Royal Oak Offshore 25721, the 42mm one nicknamed The Beast, gets bundled into vintage listings too even though it is really a 90s watch.
Before the Royal Oak there were round dress watches from the 1950s and 60s with calibres 2003 and 2120. Replicas of those are rare and usually poor. If a seller offers you a gold vintage AP dress watch copy, look hard at the dial printing and the case profile.
Why vintage AP is a harder copy than a Submariner
Three things fight the workshops. First, the movement. The genuine 2121 is roughly 3mm tall, and nothing in the replica world comes close, so every copy is thicker at the caseback than the original. Second, the bracelet. An integrated Royal Oak bracelet tapers hard from the lugs down to the clasp, and the links flex in a way that cheap stamping cannot mimic. Third, the dial. Petite Tapisserie is a raised grid cut into the dial, not a printed pattern, and the depth and grid count are easy to get wrong.
Movements you will find inside
Most mid-tier vintage AP reps run a Miyota 9015, sometimes with a decorative plate bolted over the rotor to suggest a 2121. It is a solid, serviceable movement and parts are cheap. The next step up is an ETA 2824 clone or a Seagull ST2130, which winds smoothly but runs thicker. The bargain bin uses quartz, and those watches are wrong in the hand the moment you pick them up. I always ask for the movement name in writing before paying, plus a caliper photo of the case thickness.
Dial, case, and bracelet tells
- Tapisserie depth: the squares should be cut into the dial, not printed flat. Shallow grids look like stickers under light.
- Logo: the applied AP monogram should be crisp with clean edges. Printed logos on a supposed 5402 are a red flag.
- Date window: position and font matter. Vintage AP fonts are thin and slightly tall, not chunky.
- Bezel screws: eight of them, sitting flush in a hexagonal slot. Rep screws often sit proud or strip if you touch them.
- Bracelet taper: measure it. Genuine bracelets narrow noticeably toward the clasp. Copies often stay wide and slab-like.
- Caseback engraving: shallow lasered text instead of deep stamped text is common on budget batches.
- Crown: signed, properly sized, and not oversized. A fat crown on a thin watch is the giveaway most people spot first.
What the price tiers buy
Under $200 you are looking at quartz or a rough automatic with the wrong case thickness. Between $250 and $500 sits the sweet spot, a decent automatic with a dial that holds up in daylight. From $500 to $900 you get better finishing, a closer case profile, and sometimes a decorated movement. Above $1,000 for a vintage AP rep, I would walk away. That money buys a genuine vintage watch from another brand.
Pre-purchase checklist
- Ask for the exact reference being copied, not just the brand name.
- Request a side profile photo on a ruler to judge thickness.
- Get a close-up of the dial texture in raking light.
- Confirm the movement model and whether it hacks and hand-winds.
- Check the bracelet taper measurement at the lugs and at the clasp.
- Ask what happens if the watch arrives dead. A seller with no answer is a seller to skip.
Legal and practical reality
Counterfeit watches carry registered trademarks, and US Customs can seize them at the border. Selling them is a federal offense. Buying one for yourself is lower risk in practice, but it is not a clean transaction, and the resale value is zero. If that trade-off works for you, buy from a seller with recent buyer photos, pay in a way you can dispute, and expect to spend a little on servicing within the first year. Vintage AP reps are a niche within a niche. Go in with low expectations and you will not be disappointed.